ASC 2006-Der Thread

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Zitat von Starzan

Wenn das Milos ist (könnte das einer überprüfen?), sieht die Sache um den hochgelobten Musti wohl plötzlich etwas anders aus, was?
Moderatoren: Vielleicht kann man das ja teilen und einen neuen Thread dazu eröffnen.

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Habs nachgeprüft, ist definitiv Milos.

Gruss,
Jeff

Now it would be time to listen to the "version" of Mustafa.

But at the moment i don´t see how he could "discharge" Milos´ claimings...

ma jebem mu maiku lol....

soap oper leider....

schade

hatleider immer noch niemand erläutert, was beim ironman passiert ist, weiss jemand bescheid?

ja, es sind einfach zuviele vorwürfe gegen ihn
ich hatte ihn nur als bodybuilder gekannt, seine posings sind genial, er ist ein mann mit sehr viel gefühl
leider haben viele menschen zwei seiten
wenn ich nur seine posings gesehen hätte, hätte ich vll. immer noch zweifel an den aussagen von milos, shawn ray, die sache mit arnold, etc.
vielleicht erinnert ihr euch an das video wo MM und günther schlierkamp einen auftritt 1 woche vor dem mr. o 2005 haben, da sah ich mustafa das erste mal abseits eines posings, und man merkt definitiv dass er nicht der brave typ ist der er die meiste zeit vorzugeben scheint
ich hatte in meinem leben schon viel mit betrügern zu tun, und es gibt menschen die fast perfekt lügen, nur was alle gemeinsam haben und woran man jeden erkennen kann (auch wenns schwer zu erkennen ist wenn man nicht darauf schaut), ist dieses falsche hinterhältige funkeln in den augen und grinsen
auch wenns nur ansatzweise ist - keiner von ihnen kann es unterdrücken, und es verrät jeden
schlierkamp ebenfalls übrigens, aber ich denke es wissen einige dass auch er leute mit seiner aufgesetzten netten art manipuliert - mit wirklichen nett sein hat günther zu 100% nix am hut
nun ja ich bin auch nicht perfekt, und es tut mir leid für jeden der soviel mitgemacht hat dass er irgendwann keinen anderen weg mehr gesehen hat um sich durchzusetzen als manipulation und schauspielerei - man ruiniert nicht nur anderen was damit, sondern auch sich selbst, und glücklich.. ist keiner von denen

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Zitat von Milos Sarcev

I was informed about this thrad and I would just like to make myself available to answer ANY questions members or moderators might have for me.

As I unquestionably ALWAYS stay behind everything that I do and say - I am open for criticism about my decision to expose true Mustafa to bodybuilding comunity.

People can only assume things and make their judgements - but I am here NOT TO HIDE but face any charges that members might have.

I believe that I proved more than once my friendship and loyalty to Mustafa (spanding night in Las Vegas and week later in Amsterdam's local hospitals. Than sticking up for him in IFBB case when he was warned that he will loose his pro card - and getting in argument /for him/ with top IFBB officials. Finnaly, after arranging a MD photoshoot for him with double the fee - I got in argument FOR HIM with MD editor and photographer.

Also, after personally paying for his hotels in New York, Texas and Charlotte competitions, paying the airfaire for him to Texas and Charlotte, putting him in hotel accross the street of my gym for 7 weeks (total)...and numerous other things (that normally I would not mention - but now I am - FOR A REASON) ...he asked me for a personal loan - which he never returned.

Than he asked me to come back this year and prepare AGAIN in my gym (at my expense) which I refused.
He later contacted his personal friend Faramaz (NPC top amateur bodybuilder) and asked him if he can stay with him...
Faramaz called me and asked me what happened - and I told him the truth.
Day latter Mustafa called me and told me he is going to kill me IF I tell this to anyone!?!

At the Ironman Mustafa approached me infront of Armin, Heiko and several other people like nothing happened.
I refused to shake his hand as I told him I don't respect him...

Day after the contest I got the call from John Lindsay (San Francisco promoter) stating that he doesn't want me to bring any athlete to San Francisco that would make trouble - like Mustafa did to Ironman's promoter John Balik.
I told him that Mustafa is NOT my athlete.

After the Arnold classics - official IFBB athlete representative Bob Chichorillo told me that he has serious problem with my athlete (Mustafa) and that Mustafa's actions WILL NOT BE TOLERATED by the IFBB.
He announced on live TV that he is inded surprised that one of my athletes would react like this.

So, to make story simple - I never responded to "my problem" with Mustafa publically before - as I was keeping it private.
However, due to repeating actions of Mustafa that are also affecting me - I wanted to put things in prospective and explain EXACTLY what is going on.

As many people could confirm what I am saying (but for some reason they are not speaking like I do??) Mustafa has a habit of asking for a loan and never returning back.

Even though my public spaeking about this issue lowers my standard and class (and it is certainly not good thing for my image) I choose to do it JUST TO SAVE SOME OTHER NAIVE PEOPLE (like I was) about trained professional (Mustafa) who knows very well how to scam people for money.

As I know that Mustafa reads this board - he knows that everything I am telling you here is what I told him and WILL TELL HIM AGAIN every time I see him.

And as far as his death treat to me - THAT'S ANOTHER STORY...

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Thx, now we can speak about the truth with no fear about lies.

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Zitat von Milos Sarcev

And as far as his death treat to me - THAT'S ANOTHER STORY...

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i would not worry milos
those kind of people do not only know how to act nice, if they have to, they also know how to act bad or scary, the point is, they only know how to act, they dont know how to handle things
there is no thing behind those hot words, and as soon as it is found out, those people have nothing left
only option is to seek other people who fall for their acting
thanks for sharing your experiences with us and maybe help protect other people, thats all one can do, except for giving those people what they really need - treatment (which is not a bad thing btw)

Dieser Thread verlässt mit Milos Aussage die normale Ebene eines deutschen BB-Boards.
Daher erstmal geschlossen, weitere Replys über die Moderatoren, insbesondere ev. Posts der betroffenen (ArnoldAnabo, DSG, Devil als IFBB-Pro und alle anderen natürlich).

Hi Milos,

welcome on the borad!

I'm sorry for the reason of your appearance here, hopefully you're coming back with better news...

This thread is leaving the normal level of this board, so it's closed. Any response will be done by a moderator.

Hope to see you again here!

kockie

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Zitat von raul69

hi milos,

it´s sad and sorrowful how your friendship to MM got this way.
But nevertheless it is a personal Problem of you and MM.

So, how come abot telling Faramaz about your personal problem with MM.
it just regards you and MM. You should have not lied, but you could have also said nothing about the loan.


Beside, you alway knew about financial Problems of MM.
I remember when you said after a big competition, that MM just had few dollars left and for that he bought some presents for his children.

How come to loan someone with few dollars so much money?!
Have you never asked him after weeks oder thousands about your costs?
why did you wait so long, why have you given oder supported him so long or so much money?

sincerely yours


P.S.: All other guys, i don´t understand you to judge so fast, without being informed about MM side.

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Reopen after internal diskussion.

Gx

kockie